9800 Pro problems / Computer upgrade

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9800 Pro problems / Computer upgrade

Postby Mohatu » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:31 pm

My current system:

MSI KT266 Pro-2A Motherboard
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (1.47 GHz)
Kingston HyperX 512 MB
Win XP Pro
ATI AIW 9800 Pro

Hi guys! First time poster here. Looks like a great community! :)

First, my sob story. :P Late last year I bought the new ATI 9600XT, but took it back when it was having problems… or at least I thought it was having problems. In 3D games such as Neverwinter Nights, strange graphic anomalies would appear in the game. Such as rendered buildings and characters had random long polygons projecting out of them, sometimes making it difficult to see if there are too many that fill the screen. It does it in other 3D rendered games as well.

I’ve loaded all the latest and greatest drivers, but still nothing. I took it back to exchange it thinking there was a problem with the card, but then I found that the ATI AIW 9800 Pro was on sale and so snatched that up instead! :) According to the ATI instructions, it says that if you have a non-Intel chipset, you need to load in what they referred to as a VGART driver. I’ve looked all around and don’t see such an animal. I figure this is built into one of the drivers I’ve downloaded? Anyway, before installing this card, I decided to start from scratch and format my HD to make sure that ANY trace of the old software was gone. I had an nVidia GeForce 3 card before this installation. Again I loaded in all the latest drivers for the motherboard, graphics card and chipset. But guess what? I still get the same display anomalies! >:(

Perhaps my problem is the AGP slot which is only a 4X? Maybe the VIA Apollo KT266A chipset don’t likey? Has anyone else heard or seen such problems and more importantly… is there a solution?

Well, after a lot of searching and experimenting I finally gave up and decided to upgrade my whole system. It needed it anyway. Playing these new games such as EQ II made my computer show its age. :P

I really don’t want to spend a lot of money, and want to upgrade to take advantage of my new video card. So whatever I get it has to have an AGP slot. I also wanted to get something that had an Intel chipset so I don’t have to monkey around with these additional drivers that ATI spoke of. Seems the i875P will fit the bill. Since I won’t be upgrading to the latest technology (such as PCI Express), it will also cut down on the expense.

This is my first attempt at building my own system. I’ve always wanted to make the attempt. I’m good with my hands so I’m not worried in that department.

So far all my researching has led me to the following:

ABIT IC7-G MaxII Advance Motherboard $137 Newegg
Intel Pentium 4 w/HT Technology – 3.2C GHz $275 Newegg
Kingston 1GB HyperX PC3200 DDR (Dual Channel) $219 Newegg
(I may go with the equivalent Crucial or Corsair)

I was also looking at the ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, but from the comparisons, the ABIT looked like a better board.

Was thinking of going with the Northwood version of the CPU instead of the newer Prescott as it runs much cooler. Which reminds me, any suggestions for a fan and heatsink? I thought I read that what comes with the retail version of the CPU is fine. Might get a new case too… I dunno.

But adding all this up, this is actually much more than I wanted to spend, but you kinda get caught up in it. I’m sure you know what I mean. :P I’m trying to save up for the extra expense and hope that my wife doesn’t kill me. O.O

What I’ve wanted to do with my system is capture video from my video camera as well as the TV part of the video card… strip commercials out and save favorite episodes to disk.

Of course playing games is high on my list as well such as Tribes Vengeance and EQ II… both 3D games that with my current setup has that graphics problem I spoke of.

I really wanted to know what the beef is with the video card and is why I posted this here, but I’ll post this in the hardware section as well as the rest of this post really deals with more than just the video.

:oops: Eh, sorry for the long post, but anyone have any suggestions? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Postby Zooooot » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:32 pm

My brother has a MSI board with a similar chipset-it might even be the same board. We've been having tons of problems with it. None are game related- it just hasn't been reliable for anything we do. We got ours from a friend of my brother in law. Lord knows what the friend did as far as overclocking and voltage mods go.

Hmm, a good setup....... view my suggestions here in your other thread.
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WHOOHOO!!! I got it to work… FINALLY!!!

Postby Mohatu » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:06 pm

Thanks again for the advice you gave in the other thread! Hadn't had a chance to really look into yet, but at least I've finally solved my problem with this system! Sorry to hear about your brothers setup. Except for this, so far I hadn't had any troubles with this mobo. Not sure in this case this is even the mobo's fault.

But disabling “fast write” seems to have done the trick! Going back into EQII, I don’t see anymore random graphic artifacts! I’m sure that it works now in my other games as well. Just hadn’t had a chance to tear myself away from EQII until this very moment.

One more thing I tried. I temporarily turned fast write back on just to test one thing at a time. I went back into hardware acceleration and turned it up all the way. I don’t see any vertical lines or corrupt icons on my desktop anymore! This I may attribute to perhaps the very latest drivers I’ve recently installed. This didn’t work out for me last year when I updated all the drivers to the “then” most up to date drivers. Even in EQII, my pointer is now rock solid!

Just thought I'd post this here too in case anyone else has similar problems and look in this part of the forum for answers.
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Postby busylover » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:42 am

Well Done 8)

disabling fast writes is supposed to increase stability, but most likely the latest drivers fixed the chipset-to-GPU AGP bus trouble ( HW acceleration & fast writes)

Thxxx for keeping us updated about this

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