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by **Vincent Nite** » Mon May 17, 2004 7:28 pm

Woo! one step for humanity!

by **cuchumino81** » Tue May 18, 2004 12:56 am

i sure hope people don´t be nasty with all this.

though history does show us that change always has its opponents (people who are not used to it).

But stilll i think this is a good thing. It will make a whole community happy. and i think thats worth while

by **Walter_Smidge** » Tue May 18, 2004 10:37 am

I think any acceptance will make the community happy, but there will always be opposition because...well....mainly...because people like to whinge! or they are evil.... either way

by **cuchumino81** » Tue May 18, 2004 12:42 pm

Walter_Smidge wrote:there will always be opposition because...well....mainly...because people like to whinge! or they are evil.... either way

lol. yea, your right. People are darn right evil when they group up, which is what usually happens

by **Vincent Nite** » Tue May 18, 2004 3:40 pm

thats why we should all avoid human contact as much as possible! :wink:

by **HamDemon** » Tue May 18, 2004 11:35 pm

cuchumino81 wrote:
Walter_Smidge wrote:there will always be opposition because...well....mainly...because people like to whinge! or they are evil.... either way

lol. yea, your right. People are darn right evil when they group up, which is what usually happens

im evil all by myself, that and i love to argue

by **Walter_Smidge** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:57 am

Aruguing is both fun and educational, and it can also give u exersise if you happen to get into a fight, meaning it is good for everyone!

:evil:

Evil is Good :twisted:

by **cuchumino81** » Mon May 31, 2004 11:35 am

HamDemon wrote:im evil all by myself, that and i love to argue

yea ham, your evil, but your not "kick you in the nuts when your down" evil.
Anyway, i think the bill for gay marriage wasn´t passed in England. I think i saw it on the news.

by **HamDemon** » Mon May 31, 2004 12:04 pm

cuchumino81 wrote:yea ham, your evil, but your not "kick you in the nuts when your down" evil.

i prefer a bat myself

by **cuchumino81** » Mon May 31, 2004 12:08 pm

by **TakMusashi** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:14 pm

Ehh eventually the kids will be reading about gay marriage rights in their history books, just like other repressed groups that eventually gained rights in the US. *shrugs* I think is mostly a matter of time before it goes through.. but I'm pretty confident it will sooner or later.

by **cuchumino81** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:50 am

i think that will happen also. Time will tell.

by **Foolhardy** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:23 pm

TakMusashi wrote:Ehh eventually the kids will be reading about gay marriage rights in their history books, just like other repressed groups that eventually gained rights in the US. *shrugs* I think is mostly a matter of time before it goes through.. but I'm pretty confident it will sooner or later.

no doubt.

I was talking with one of old college buddies earlier today and he goes "dude, why are you not a member of the ACLU?" I didn't have a good reason why I wasn't. I guess I don't like being affiliated... even when I agree with almost everything they do, LOL. Moving on -->

Here's a nugget for all you non-history buffs out there: here in the States we drill into our students the greatness that was the Greek world of Antiquity. We get many lessons (of what and what not to do) from what the Greeks passed down in philosophy, war, economics, arts, etc... One thing they won't teach you in high school in the States is why homosexuality has it's negative connotations presently in today's society.

(This is really really paraphrased so just bear with me) The Greeks loved queers. I'm not kidding, every straight, well adjusted adult male was expected to have at least a few young male lovers. Spartan soldiers were to sleep with veterans and gain "knowledge and experience." Cultural oddities like these continued to exist in much of Europe even after the advent of Christianity. After the Black Death and other epidemic outbreaks decimated European populations, rulers were faced with even less manpower to fill their armies with when going to war with one another. One relic from this awful time was the outlawing of homosexuality because it didn't add people to the population. As most siblings of Kings ended up in the Papacy (that's how aristocracies maintained power over the mobs of Europe) this new homophobia was slowly fundamentalized by Church leaders and even became State sancitioned laws in non-Catholic countries too.

At least that's the general gist of it. I had to shorten it in order to not bore you all with a full lecture :wink:

foo

ACLU Topic was split to here.

by **Walter_Smidge** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:27 am

society is homophobic, i mean how many times do we use the term "you are gay" to in some way insult someone? We have been to brought up to beleive that homosexuality is something to laugh at or be disgusted by and so even though most of us try and overcome this there will always be a sence of uncomfortableness around gay people.

Slowly society is changing, and hopefully the next generation will have it easier!

by **HamDemon** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:56 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, it's time for a "HamDemon Mini-Rant™"!

i have always thought the term "open-minded" was a joke, ever try talking to an "open-minded" person about any ideas that are different than yours? no matter what the situation, chances are yours will be wrong, because, after all, they are an enlightened, open-minded individual. it seems that just because they think of things differently than someone else, they deem themselves open-minded, when in reality they are often even more closed-minded than me ( which is no easy feat ), they just have different ideas...

i was going somewhere with that, but my train of thought derailed and hit a bus

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